Jesus Never Existed
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"God created me" - uh, ok. So, if God created me, he must also have created my brain, right? And according to you Bible thumpers, God is now going to send me to hell, for the offense of using the brain he gave me to read the info on this site, and question his existence. Sorry pal, "does not compute".
from Agnostic Guy
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9:02 am - Saturday,May 20, 2006
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"Some of the comment posters think god exists. Quentin Smith has published many papers which prove god does not exist."
Maybe it proves it for you, but that is highly subjective thinking, don't you agree?
If you believe in evolution then be it, but don't think everyone will accept the bag of goods Darwin offers.
"Evolutionists say that YOU used to be a fish. Do you really believe that? Sounds like a Brothers Grimm fairy tale to me. It takes more faith to believe an amoeba is my daddy, than to believe that God created me. Where are all those elusive transitional forms, such as lizards with feathers? There should be MILLIONS of them, but NOT ONE has been found. The "missing link" will NEVER be found because it does NOT exist! Evolution is NOT observable, testable, or repeatable. Evolution is NOT science! Evolution is a faith, a belief, a RELIGION; the religion of atheism and humanism!"
As the quote says, no transitional forms have ever been found, living or dead, not a single crossspecie between ape and human have been found. All those which were announced to be found were revealed to be fabricated hoaxes.
You are free to neglect God but don't think your religion is based on facts. And most importantly don't think your religion is science.
So long friend :)
from Rakizaki
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7:20 am - Saturday,May 20, 2006
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Check the bibliographies on the JNE pages for sources. There are many good reads listed there. But ask yourself :
• Why does Matthew plagiarize “The Egyptian Book of the Dead” as source material for chapter 25?
• Why if Jesus as depicted in the gospels taught in Galilean synagogues are there no pre-second temple era synagogues in Galilee dating to the 30’s?
• Why is the epistle of James silent on any of the details of the life of Jesus? Would not the brother of Jesus, in order to increase his status as a sectarian cult leader, be concerned with communicating his intimate knowledge of the Savior?
• Why is the Gospel of Mark structured like the Iliad and Odyssey if it is the Word of a God? Could not a God come up with something better than the style of Homer?
• If Jesus was God, why did he endorse slavery when slavery is absolutely wrong in all cases? If Jesus was God then should not he have been perfectly moral? These are but a few of the questions one can ask. There are many thousands of other questions.
There was and is no need for a human sacrifice to make any of us ok with God. The whole premise of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam is false, so even if some God does exist she must of necessity honor the homage of Reason more than the door mat subservience of blind faith.
from Robert Bumbalough
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6:08 am - Saturday,May 20, 2006
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drink a lot of water now, because you won't have any in HELL.
from szy
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5:55 am - Saturday,May 20, 2006
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This is a message from God that he wants me to tell you;
Jesus is real & he is coming back, and "every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that he is Lord".
I have known him my whole life and he is very real, I have seen a vision of heaven & can not deny that it was real. ... I have felt his Holy Spirit come upon me & can not deny it. I have seen him heal people beyond any comprehension, including myself mind you, from disease. He healed my son as well.
Your soul is in jeopardy of hell-fire my friend. God does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked, but only that they would repent and turn from their evil ways, come to him and be healed. God; right now, at this very moment; is giving you a chance to repent from this evil and be saved. He is willing to forgive you from all of this wickedness that you have committed and to heal you.
from His Servent Michael
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5:50 am - Saturday,May 20, 2006
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Of interest to Christians may be these questions: Why are the events of the gospel and its central character Jesus of Nazareth not found in the New Testament epistles? Why does Paul's divine Christ seen to have no connection to the gospel Jesus but closely resembles the many pagan gods of the time who lived on in myth? Why, given the spread of Christianity across the Roman Empire in the first century, did only one Christian community compose a story of Jesus life and death, the gospel of Mark, while every other gospel simply copied and reworked the first one? Why is every detail in the Gospel story of Jesus trial and crucifixion drawn from passages in the Old Testament? The answers to these and to other questions can be found in JNE and in other fine books detailing the myth of Jesus. Read, study, and ask questions. If, with an open mind, you will, you will find that Jesus is a literary fiction created by many writers and editors for various purposes.
EDITED FOR EXCESSIVE LENGTH. KH
from Robert Bumbalough
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5:47 am - Saturday,May 20, 2006
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Some of the comment posters think god exists. Quentin Smith has published many papers which prove god does not exist. Of particular interest to those who read this guest book may be Smith's article, Why Steven Hawking's Cosmology Precludes a Creator" to be found at http://www.qsmithwmu.com/why_stephen_hawking's_cosmology_precludes_a_creator.htm
This article shows why Hawkings wave function of the universe, undisputibly accepted a law of nature, proves there was no supernatural magical creation and hence no creator. People of faith should try to think and reason as to why their faith may not be all they have been told. Ask questions. Do not accept a bag of goods just because someone says you should. For instance, why would the holy bible have more than 3000 contradictions if it were actually the word of god? Why is it that if its supernatural, there are no scientificly verrifible events that cannot be explained in terms of the know laws of physics? Why is not this god fellow actually communicating the same message to all people on the planet? Why are there more than 30,000 christian cults or sects if the holy ghost is leading and guiding believers? JNE does not have all the answers, but it sure has much truth. This is a good place to look for answers and to be inspired to ask even more questions.
from Robert Bumbalough
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5:48 pm - Friday,May 19, 2006
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Further to my previous remarks it should be pointed out that the silence of Paul on any aspect of a recent historical Jesus to be found throughout the entire pauline corpus strongly indicates Paul had no knowledge of an actual Jesus. Earl Doherty has proven this beyond the shadow of a doubt. Christians should read "Jesusneverexisted.com" and its companion book. But to get a throrogh exposition on the silence of Paul please do be sure to read "The Jesus Puzzle". Doherty's site is at http://pages.ca.inter.net/~oblio/home.htm
from Robert Bumbalough
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5:04 pm - Friday,May 19, 2006
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Wow, you and your helpers did a super good job on redesigning the site. Its way better now.
Words fail me to describe how thoroughly informing and entertaining the new articles on Philo and Senaca hit home. That the deafening silence of any contemporary witness to the existence of the vile monster godman in turn silences any rationally minded beliefs that such a scum bag could have actually existed is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room. Yet no evidence, no proofs, no actual facts, no certified findings or ascertained reality will convince the true believer. This is because religious belief short circuits the whole rational mind. Faith, being an emotion, has no intellectual content.
from Robert Bumbalough
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1:03 pm - Friday,May 19, 2006
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I am absolutely amazaed at your site. You are an awesome person, and your reasearch is stunning. I really don't think most people are at all ready for this stuff, and it can sometimes be sad when you dont have a god or an afterlife to comfort you, but without this website, who knows how many people would slip into sadness when they just aren't sure what to believe anymore? For anyone here interested in awesome things, check out http://www.hedweb.com/ It is a very beautiful 'heaven' that can help an atheist be optimistic about what humans could eventually achieve. Again, WONDERFUL websites.
from intense_monkey
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6:21 pm - Wednesday,May 17, 2006
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